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Enigmatics · Jul 02, 2005, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Normal chat in big cities has become stuffed, because of all the people advertising their godly 12-17 swords and minor inspiration magic runes.

Indigo · Jul 02, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by free4all

9. PARENTAL GUIDANCE

While NC Interactive may choose to monitor and take action upon inappropriate game play, chat or links to the Service, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessible on or through the Service that may be inappropriate for children or offensive to some users of any age. NC Interactive cannot ensure that other players will not provide Content or access to Content that parents or guardians may find inappropriate or that any user may find objectionable. NC Interactive does not as a matter of policy pre-screen the content of the materials or communications transmitted by each player.

NC Interactive reserves the right to enforce any or all of these rules at its sole discretion.

While vague, it does give the reason you were banned. Because A-Net wanted you banned. Fair? No. But the reality is, that this is A-Net's property, their server(s), and they decide what they want to keep on it. There really shouldn't be all of this debate, IMO. You were banned, perhaps by mistake, perhaps because you broke a rule that you agreed to. "A-Net reserves the right to enforce any or all of these rules" means that they never have to give you an explaination.

I'm sorry that you were banned. It sounds like a poor reason, unless you're leaving something out of your account of the situation (calling someone a specific name that specifically breaks the rules for example, either racial or questioning their sexual orientation). You sound like you were pretty heated to be cursing, etc. Obviously, you will say you didn't, but that is immaterial. At the end of the day, you got a vacation from GW. Deserved or not. Of course in future, you might just ignore the morons who try to sell/buy in the wrong channel.

DarX · Jul 02, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37

well if you swear quite a bit and are offensive you probably willl get banned

Ninna · Jul 02, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Sholtar

after an incident involving me repeatedly telling people to use the trade channel. I swore occasionally and occasionally mocked people's spelling, but that was about it. I figured swearing was fine, as there is an optional censor.

causes for banning are *loose*

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

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(d) Member Conduct. You agree not to use the Service to:

transmit any content as determined by NC Interactive at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

swearing can get you banned

Itbegins · Jul 02, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by Ninna

causes for banning are *loose*

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

swearing can get you banned

owned....... Sholtar you said it yourself you cursed in the chat.that=ban... it doesnt even have to be arenanet employee to see it someone can S/S it and send it to guild wars customer service and they ban that way too........moral of the story get teamspeak and dont talk to anyone at all.....just turn off all chats but guild and team and youll be fine.

Evan The Cursed · Jul 02, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Yes, because the horde of a billion other curse-spamming chatters get banned all the time, right?

Right?

Oh wait, they don't. Unless he was literally cursing three times or more in each line. (I've seen much worse go un-punished)

Ninna · Jul 02, 2005, 11:09 PM // 23:09

doesnt change the fact that you swear at your own risk

Skrilling · Jul 02, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Great, he got banned for a reason. Still doesn't address the reason people don't use the chat channel. I believe your suggesstion of showing people the trade channel in pre- searing will be good (heck, add in the other chats, a few emotes, give it a stage, call it a play and reward 500 exp).

However, this is not always the reason people don't use the chat channel. People use the other channel for this reason: they want potential buyers to see it.

This behavior is usually motivated by two thoughts. The first thought is fairly obvious, "Maybe theres a guy just walking thru that has chat turned off and is looking for this very weapon, and I could stand to make a lot of money." Unfortunatly, this is the motivation for e-mail and other spamming by corporations and advertisers around the world, and as you can see there hasn't been much success fixing any of that.

The second motivation may have solutions. I will use Lions Arch to illustrate the second problem. You are Joe Shmo, and you hava a godly 12-17 sword with absolutly nothing on it that you know that everyone wants. So, you advertise on the trade channel in dist 12 LA. Nobody is there, so you move to a more populated place. You again advertise on that channel, but this time your in dist 1, a very populated place where most people are buying and selling. As soon as the message hits the screen, its gone again, washed away by the millions of other people selling their items. You try to time it perfect so your most important message is in the limelight long enough to catch peoples attention. You must have failed again because nobody wants your godly piece if equiptment that would undoubtably lead the potential buyer to salvation. How do you get people to see it? The All channel. Yes, the All channel will whiz by as fast as it did before, but if someone notices, even for an instant, they can cut off the trade channel and look back just a short ways for your name to msg you. This is the second motivation.

There have been many ideas aimed at fixing other problems with trade that would potentialy fix this one. My favorite was an auction house, and yes it would increase prices, but that benefits as many as it hurts, and you solve the chat problem which benefits everyone. The only real downside is if there are shifts downward in price for all but the best of items. This would potentialy reduce the amount of trade that goes on at all, which may not be what we want.

dustin squarepants · Jul 02, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

You're missing the point, you instulted several people for what was possibly ignorance, who were breaking the rules yes, but you cant fix rules by breaking more. You deserve what you got, just deal with it and dont do it again. As some already said to you, you're JUST as annoying as the people not in trade channel.

ocoini · Jul 03, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Ignoreing doesnt work, you still hear their public chat :\

WTS WTS WTS WTB WTB WTB LFG LFG LFG

(
Type it out, damnit...And the word is newbie, not N00b :\

Can I make a costum filter ? certain words just annnoy the hell out of me.

Roland Des Chain · Jul 03, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Dude,
I've been adminning on CS Source servers for about five years, and I'll bet you possibly downplayed your role in this incident. The other thing is, if you read all the rules, vague or not, they clearly state swearing. I'f i'd been adminning this game, i would have banned you too. If you can't stand the discussion just bog off to a mission or quest and ignore it?

I don't know you from a bar of charr soap

and you sound reasoned and intelligent. I think that although you should be advised of a ban reason, you could figure out how come you got banned yourself.. It's called behaviour modification

Roland Des Chain

Jul 02, 2005, 02:30 PM // 14:30	#21
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	Normal chat in big cities has become stuffed, because of all the people advertising their godly 12-17 swords and minor inspiration magic runes.

Jul 02, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#23
DarX Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Dark Phantoms [DPG] Profession: W/Mo	well if you swear quite a bit and are offensive you probably willl get banned

Jul 02, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#26
Evan The Cursed Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005	Yes, because the horde of a billion other curse-spamming chatters get banned all the time, right? Right? Oh wait, they don't. Unless he was literally cursing three times or more in each line. (I've seen much worse go un-punished)

Jul 02, 2005, 11:09 PM // 23:09	#27
Ninna Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northeast USA Guild: Guilded Rose Profession: Me/	doesnt change the fact that you swear at your own risk

Jul 02, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#28
Skrilling Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA	Great, he got banned for a reason. Still doesn't address the reason people don't use the chat channel. I believe your suggesstion of showing people the trade channel in pre- searing will be good (heck, add in the other chats, a few emotes, give it a stage, call it a play and reward 500 exp). However, this is not always the reason people don't use the chat channel. People use the other channel for this reason: they want potential buyers to see it. This behavior is usually motivated by two thoughts. The first thought is fairly obvious, "Maybe theres a guy just walking thru that has chat turned off and is looking for this very weapon, and I could stand to make a lot of money." Unfortunatly, this is the motivation for e-mail and other spamming by corporations and advertisers around the world, and as you can see there hasn't been much success fixing any of that. The second motivation may have solutions. I will use Lions Arch to illustrate the second problem. You are Joe Shmo, and you hava a godly 12-17 sword with absolutly nothing on it that you know that everyone wants. So, you advertise on the trade channel in dist 12 LA. Nobody is there, so you move to a more populated place. You again advertise on that channel, but this time your in dist 1, a very populated place where most people are buying and selling. As soon as the message hits the screen, its gone again, washed away by the millions of other people selling their items. You try to time it perfect so your most important message is in the limelight long enough to catch peoples attention. You must have failed again because nobody wants your godly piece if equiptment that would undoubtably lead the potential buyer to salvation. How do you get people to see it? The All channel. Yes, the All channel will whiz by as fast as it did before, but if someone notices, even for an instant, they can cut off the trade channel and look back just a short ways for your name to msg you. This is the second motivation. There have been many ideas aimed at fixing other problems with trade that would potentialy fix this one. My favorite was an auction house, and yes it would increase prices, but that benefits as many as it hurts, and you solve the chat problem which benefits everyone. The only real downside is if there are shifts downward in price for all but the best of items. This would potentialy reduce the amount of trade that goes on at all, which may not be what we want.

Jul 02, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59	#29
dustin squarepants Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	You're missing the point, you instulted several people for what was possibly ignorance, who were breaking the rules yes, but you cant fix rules by breaking more. You deserve what you got, just deal with it and dont do it again. As some already said to you, you're JUST as annoying as the people not in trade channel.

Jul 03, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14	#30
ocoini Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	Ignoreing doesnt work, you still hear their public chat :\ WTS WTS WTS WTB WTB WTB LFG LFG LFG ( Type it out, damnit...And the word is newbie, not N00b :\ Can I make a costum filter ? certain words just annnoy the hell out of me.

Jul 03, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#31
Roland Des Chain Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Friends Of SLAK [FOS] Profession: E/R	Dude, I've been adminning on CS Source servers for about five years, and I'll bet you possibly downplayed your role in this incident. The other thing is, if you read all the rules, vague or not, they clearly state swearing. I'f i'd been adminning this game, i would have banned you too. If you can't stand the discussion just bog off to a mission or quest and ignore it? I don't know you from a bar of charr soap and you sound reasoned and intelligent. I think that although you should be advised of a ban reason, you could figure out how come you got banned yourself.. It's called behaviour modification Roland Des Chain